Episode 9 (Season 2) Relationships: Successful Marriage is About Humility Guests: Brenda Bogart, Bill Bogart

About the Episode:
Join us to hear Bill and Brenda Bogart open up with humility about how marriage is like a full-length mirror into yourself, your sin, and your selfishness. While this can cause deep brokenness, it is also a sanctifying tool for the Lord to show us where we need to grow. When we marry, we marry a sinner yet our primary identity and permanent identity is in the Lord who shows us grace and mercy. As Bill says, when we understand the Lord’s love for us, that’s when we can be most successful in loving our spouse.

Brenda reveals that God has done His best work in the rich soil of brokenness. This is scary, yet even through pain, we can listen to the Lord through our relationships and community. Bill and Brenda also share their thoughts on comforting a friend in pain through listening with emotion; not to comment, not to fix it, not to agree with it even, but to truly listen and try to understand. Experiencing this type of love and Godly counsel in community is the essence of Christianity.

Lastly, Bill and Brenda provide wise guidance to ask for help before the storm and to go find your counselor now so that they know you and know your story. Bill recommends that every couple needs an accountability couple, a pastor, mentors, and/or a counselor and that successful marriage is about humility. We desire for you to walk away from this episode with hope, love, and humility.

About our guests, Bill and Brenda Bogart:
Bill’s life mission is to work with couples on preparing for and improving marriage. He also mentors men around money and career. He married Brenda in 2005 and has 6 children and 2 grandchildren. They enjoy working in marriage ministry, taking long walks with their beagles, and an occasional bike ride around the lake.

Brenda Bogart is a Dallas artist renowned for her compelling and conversation-starting collage work and paintings of famous, historical figures from Lincoln to Einstein. A visit to her airy studio readily reveals her inspiration. It is filled with a fascinating collection of centuries-old handwritten letters, colorful handmade papers from around the world, plus various eclectic objects she has collected during her travels. Her latest passion has been hosting collaborative collage workshops to benefit Jubilee Park and Community Center, a group that has revitalized a neighborhood in Southeast Dallas.

About the Host:
A graduate of Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis, Mark Davis came to PCPC as our Youth Pastor in 2003 and became our Senior Pastor in 2009. He and his bride, Kristina, met at a Young Life Camp in 1988 and have five amazing kids, Kara (and husband, Drew), Madalyn (and husband, Jack), Cayden, Esther Kate, & Samuel.

Resources:
DivorceCare- PCPC hosts DivorceCare, a weekly support group on Wednesdays from 6:45-8:15 P.M. DivorceCare is a ministry that works to help those affected by divorce or separation to face the challenges and move towards rebuilding life. Here is where you’ll find caring people who understand the issues, begin the healing process, and receive God’s comfort and support. The course is open to the community and covers topics such as “The Road to Recovery,” “Grief and Depression,” and “Financial and Legal Issues.” Don’t try to go through divorce or separation alone.

“When Sinners Say I Do,” by Dave Harvey
“Intimate Allies,” by Dan Allendar

For any follow-up questions from this episode or ideas for future content, please email us at deeplight@pcpc.org

Verse to pray over:
“Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.” – Ephesians 4:2

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